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nydepot

Posted - 2011 September 23 :  10:16:56 AM  Show Profile
I saw a model contest from a few years ago where a person had built CB&Q caboose #9953. It said it was in an HO kit division.

The caboose was wooden and appeared like a transfer caboose. A 40' or so flatcar with 4-5 window sections of a wooden coach body centered on top. Doors on the ends.

I can't find any prototype references to this type of car or what it was used for.

Any ideas? Thanks.

Charles

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Bob Elliott

Posted - 2011 September 23 :  3:49:56 PM  Show Profile
This?
http://www.laserkit.com/images/877Dweb.jpg

or this/
http://www.hebners.net/caboose/bn/bn11473.jpg

Bob Elliott



Edited by - Bob Elliott on 2011 September 23 3:51:55 PM

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Edwardsutorik

Posted - 2011 September 23 :  4:09:53 PM  Show Profile
If you're talking about a caboose that looks like a shack on a raft (see Bob's second example), Burlington only had one (I think): #14700. There's a photo of it on page 99 of the CB&Q equipment color guide. But it doesn't have a "4-5 window sections of a wooden coach body centered on top". Nor can I find reference to a caboose #9953. Burlington DID have caboose #3953. It was a short wooden combine with a cupola on top. Burlington had 30-40 of this type of car. It was a combined caboose/passenger/baggage car and performed these various services on branch lines.


Ed



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AustralianTerrier

Posted - 2011 September 23 :  4:11:48 PM  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Bob Elliott

This?
http://www.laserkit.com/images/877Dweb.jpg

or this/
http://www.hebners.net/caboose/bn/bn11473.jpg

Bob Elliott




Bob,

Those are all Great Northern prototype cabooses. The original poster is looking for a Q transfer waycar.

Also Q never rostered a caboose numbered 9953.

Burlington Route Historical Society waycar roster.

http://www.burlingtonroute.com/docs/rosters/waycars.html



Jim

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nydepot

Posted - 2011 September 23 :  4:25:49 PM  Show Profile
Sorry it was from memory. It's 9935 and I've attached a photo of the model:



quote:
Originally posted by AustralianTerrier


Bob,

Those are all Great Northern prototype cabooses. The original poster is looking for a Q transfer waycar.

Also Q never rostered a caboose numbered 9953.

Burlington Route Historical Society waycar roster.

http://www.burlingtonroute.com/docs/rosters/waycars.html





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AustralianTerrier

Posted - 2011 September 23 :  4:31:12 PM  Show Profile
Q never rostered a 99xx series waycar.

The model looks to be a mythical kit bash as the Q also never had transfer waycars.


Jim

"It's a question of methods. Everybody wants results, but nobody wants to do what they have to do to get them done." - Clint Eastwood as Inspector "Dirty" Harry Callahan


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Edwardsutorik

Posted - 2011 September 23 :  5:42:26 PM  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by AustralianTerrier

...the Q also never had transfer waycars.




#14700 looks like a classic transfer caboose to me, and it is called that in Holbrook and Lorenz's "Waycars of the Chicago, Burlington, & Quincy RR". In Spoor's "CB&Q Color Guide to Freight and Passenger Equipment", it says "....#14700 was assigned to the yard at Western Avenue in Chicago and used on transfer runs."

It would appear to be the only Q transfer caboose, though.

Charles's supplied photo does seem to illustrate a Q Neverwas. A cute one, nevertheless.


Ed



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Bob Elliott

Posted - 2011 September 23 :  6:06:34 PM  Show Profile
This? About 14700
http://home.earthlink.net/~vnlbeck/HO/xferwayc.html

Go half way down this link for some reall odd ball looking waycars
http://milepost206.com/MP206_Flyer.pdf

Bob Elliott



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AustralianTerrier

Posted - 2011 September 23 :  7:28:21 PM  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Bob Elliott

This? About 14700
http://home.earthlink.net/~vnlbeck/HO/xferwayc.html

Go half way down this link for some reall odd ball looking waycars
http://milepost206.com/MP206_Flyer.pdf

Bob Elliott



First, I shot from the hip and hit myself square in the foot. Sorry, everyone I was dead wrong.

According to the CB&Q group on Yahoo, the Q rostered one 40' wood bay window transfer waycar, number 14700. It was the only NE class caboose.

CB&Q class NE-5 were wood bay window cabooses rebuilt from boxcars. The Yahoo Q posting doesn't indicate length or type of service for this waycar class.

There is a photo of the car in Hol Wagner's "1973 Burlington Northern Annual".

It would figure the Q's transfer waycar would be assigned to a Chicago facility.


Jim

"It's a question of methods. Everybody wants results, but nobody wants to do what they have to do to get them done." - Clint Eastwood as Inspector "Dirty" Harry Callahan


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AustralianTerrier

Posted - 2011 September 23 :  7:32:20 PM  Show Profile
The long combination passenger car with a cupola car is called a drovers waycar on the Q.

Here is a photo of model.

http://labellemodels.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_itemId=292

The car in question in this thread looks like a combination of a drovers and a transfer, which as far as I know didn't exist.


Jim

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nydepot

Posted - 2011 September 23 :  9:42:53 PM  Show Profile
I'm beginning to think it is fake. Very nice, but not a prototype.


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