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wcfn100

Posted - 2010 April 08 :  8:09:38 PM  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by kornellred

Intermountain bought out Red Caboose years ago.




You should let Red Caboose know this.

Jason


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atsf_arizona

Posted - 2010 April 09 :  09:57:24 AM  Show Profile  Visit atsf_arizona's Homepage
For the pilot, I used the Micro-Trains 2004.

For close-coupling with Unimates at the back of the A unit and between B units, here is a photo installation tutorial:

http://www.pbase.com/atsf_arizona/kato_n_scale_unimate_install&page=all

And photos of result:



For some pictures of comparisons of the front couplers, here, from left to right, are
the stock Kato, the MT 2004, the old discontinued MT 1159 adapter kit:






Hope this helps.



John Sing
San Mateo, Calif
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Modeling the Santa Fe's Peavine Line (Ash Fork->Phoenix, Arizona) in the 50s and 60s

Edited by - atsf_arizona on 2010 April 09 10:03:30 AM

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up148

Posted - 2010 April 09 :  12:20:06 PM  Show Profile
Thanks John,

That is great information. I think your post was the one I was looking for and couldn't find.

I appreciate all the great suggestions from everyone and will now get my F-3's close coupled.

Butch



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al1218

Posted - 2010 April 09 :  1:54:45 PM  Show Profile
If you can find them, the Kato "dummy" coupler that they use on their Coalporters is perfect. They look just like the short
shank Unimate, but will couple without resorting to using the "five-finger" big hook.


Allen

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up148

Posted - 2010 April 14 :  11:43:36 AM  Show Profile
Okay, I guess I left this topic too quickly. I've been scouring the internet trying to find someone who carries the Unimate coupler.

So far nothing--nada--goose eggs. I know they've been out of production for several years but I thought some hobby shop or ?? might still have some.

Does anyone know where a fellow can find some of these couplers?

I would appreciate and help or leads.

Thanks!

Butch



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trainforfun

Posted - 2010 April 14 :  12:04:46 PM  Show Profile
I just phoned my LHS and they don't have any left .
How many do you need ? I think I may have some spare ones .


Louis





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up148

Posted - 2010 April 14 :  12:58:26 PM  Show Profile
Thanks Louis,

I would appreciate any help you can offer. I'm trying to connect an ABBA set of F3's so I guess I need a total of 3 pairs. I'm happy to buy them one at a time from different sources if I have too.

Butch



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trainforfun

Posted - 2010 April 14 :  4:58:25 PM  Show Profile
I will try to locate them , I am not sure I have 6 pairs .

Louis





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Karl Schotter

Posted - 2010 April 14 :  5:33:30 PM  Show Profile
The order number of the Kato close coupling knuckle couplers is 923090. MRSP is 2.50 for a pack of 8 couplers.

As mentioned before, these couplers originally belong to the Kato BethGon Coalporters.

I like them better than the short shank Unimates.

Regards
Karl



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Spookshow

Posted - 2010 April 14 :  5:41:00 PM  Show Profile  Visit Spookshow's Homepage
These guys have medium and long shank Unimates in abundance -

http://www.modeltrainstuff.com

I didn't realize they were drying up, so I ordered a few for myself.

Cheers,
-Mark



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trainforfun

Posted - 2010 April 15 :  3:15:54 PM  Show Profile
Sorry Butch , I don't have any left , I have some long ones ( black ) in my spare parts bin but it would look awfull .
I took a look at my units , I have 6 original Kato units , some have the short brown Unimate and others have a MT conversion , I remember how difficult it was to assemble these kits in the original "pocket" for the Rapido couplers . In both cases in a very close coupling .
The new F units comes with an automatic coupler from Kato , they are not bad , but never as closed to the dummy Unimate . I will post some picture shortly of both types .


Louis





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up148

Posted - 2010 April 15 :  4:06:36 PM  Show Profile
Thanks for looking Louis. I'm going to try the Kato close coupling couplers mentioned above and see how they look. I just want to get away from the factory stock units that look to be about 4-5 scale feet apart.

Butch



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trainforfun

Posted - 2010 April 15 :  4:12:16 PM  Show Profile
Here are some pictures :

Silver F units are stock automatic couplers by Kato , black F units have the Unimate ( short ):






Louis





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trainforfun

Posted - 2010 April 15 :  4:16:26 PM  Show Profile
The MT couplers that are in a form of kits are about the same as the Unimate for the spacing .

Here it is for the rear coupler only on F A unit and both couplers of B unit :

Note : buy and install a punching bag before the installation , after 1 conversion you will feel to hit somebody , don't , instead run to your punching bag !

http://www.modelbaneteknik.dk/n-scale/kobl/mt1128-e.pdf



Louis





Edited by - trainforfun on 2010 April 15 4:25:51 PM

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fl@liner

Posted - 2010 April 15 :  7:27:12 PM  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by NandW

Red Caboose bought out Precision Masters years ago.

Mark


Red Caboose did indeed buy out Precision Masters.
The really hard to find couplers are the ones used to close-couple the Intermountain F3-7 locos. I grabbed a few to extort some cash from Intermountain lovers. Even got some in rust color!



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