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sschaer

Posted - 2008 June 25 :  01:18:46 AM  Show Profile  Visit sschaer's Homepage
i just found this very interesting page regarding some design details of new green saskatchewan grain hoppers. lots of detail pictures to compare major and minor details to other car types.

Saskatchewan grain car FAQ




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Edited by - sschaer on 2008 June 25 01:26:24 AM

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Ed Kapuscinski

Posted - 2008 June 25 :  09:47:14 AM  Show Profile  Visit Ed Kapuscinski's Homepage
Wait a minute, aren't you a partial owner of PWRS or something? Full disclosure there please, sir.


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engineshop

Posted - 2008 June 25 :  10:57:06 AM  Show Profile
This "information" page is just for the ones like me that already used the intermountain cars to do some Saskatchewan cars and for the one that are considering doing it.


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lock4244

Posted - 2008 June 25 :  12:59:04 PM  Show Profile
I think that PWRS should have gone after a different Canadian car that doesn't have a "close enough" already in existence. A few I'd like to see:

1) straight edge (sorry, don't know how else to describe them) 65' mill gons used by CN and CP

2) short cylindrical used to carry sodium chlorate

3) those little half cylindrical covered hoppers that CP had (not the ore cars)

4) cylindrical ore cars for CN and ONT

5) the slab side covered hopper

6) CP's 81' and or 85' container flats

7) the NSC 50'-6" newsprint boxcars (too late, Trueline is doing them and I think PWRS missed a great opportunity there)

8) RTR Pointe St. Charles van for CN and ACR

I'm sure there are others, but thats all I can think of now. They (PWRS) really could have gone with another model, but I guess they wanted to be the first (only) with the new SASK scheme on the cylindricals.


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sschaer

Posted - 2008 June 25 :  1:13:35 PM  Show Profile  Visit sschaer's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Ed Kapuscinski

Wait a minute, aren't you a partial owner of PWRS or something? Full disclosure there please, sir.




recheck this link every now and then. you'll find out more about this project. or send dan an email.


have fun
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acsoosub

Posted - 2008 June 25 :  6:47:25 PM  Show Profile  Visit acsoosub's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by lock4244

I think that PWRS should have gone after a different Canadian car that doesn't have a "close enough" already in existence. A few I'd like to see:



There's always other cars that manufacturers could/should be doing. But it _is_ a slightly different prototype; and you don't hear too many complaints that mfrs are doing similar looking Berwick, ACF, FMC, etc. 50' boxcars.

The strange thing is when 2 or more mfrs do the exact same model several times in the same scale (MicroTrains, FVM and Athearn all have models of the same FMC 50' boxcar)

quote:
1) straight edge (sorry, don't know how else to describe them) 65' mill gons used by CN and CP

2) short cylindrical used to carry sodium chlorate

3) those little half cylindrical covered hoppers that CP had (not the ore cars)

4) cylindrical ore cars for CN and ONT

5) the slab side covered hopper

6) CP's 81' and or 85' container flats

7) the NSC 50'-6" newsprint boxcars (too late, Trueline is doing them and I think PWRS missed a great opportunity there)

8) RTR Pointe St. Charles van for CN and ACR

I'm sure there are others, but thats all I can think of now. They (PWRS) really could have gone with another model, but I guess they wanted to be the first (only) with the new SASK scheme on the cylindricals.



A good part of that list would be great in HO as well. I'd like to see #8. :)

3-5 were done as resin kits in HO by Sylvan, and the slab sides are being done in RTR by TrueLine.

A nice model of a older NSC 52' drop-end gon would be nice too. While superficially similar to the proto2000 model (Greenville Steel Car prototype) the NSC version has a shallower fishbelly and different number of ribs. A model of this would be great for CN, CP, ONT, BCOL, AC, THB ...


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lock4244

Posted - 2008 June 25 :  8:29:48 PM  Show Profile
Chris, either I missed the announcement of N scale slab sides or your talking about TLT's HO car.

Mike LockWood (MLW)

Atlas, Please Release a CN GP40-2L(W) in N! To do one in HO and not N is just mean

My Railroad Photography
http://tinyurl.com/62uk24
And some more here
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Puddington

Posted - 2008 June 25 :  10:31:35 PM  Show Profile  Visit Puddington's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by ljudice

There are so many unique looking modern Canadian freight cars, I am just baffled that PWRS would pick a car that requires a fact sheet to lay out the differences between it and the Intermountain car.




I think that PWRS should have thought before cutting a clearly immoral and "greedy" agreement with a government (Sask) that has a history of deals and corruption that is legendary in Canadian history to lock up the "rights" to produce a car that "BELONGS TO THE @$$#@! PEOPLE OF A CANADIAN PROVINCE" and is not the personal pervue of the pork barrel, trough feeding political hacks that make up the Saskatawan provincial government.

I have nothing but contempt for this deal; I don't care if they do a wonderful job on these cars, nor if modelers are happy to see their production. It is their deal that irks me - and I am pleased to express my contempt loud and clear..... this is NOT good for modeling; it IS GOOD for a private company at the expence of the tax paying people of a province and Canada.

I do not believe that anyone except PWRS benefits from this situation; how long will it take until other governments/companies/organizations decide to "sell their image" to high priced, limited edition producers who will fleece the public for over $ 40.00 a car.....

I believe I am clear on my opinion.


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lock4244

Posted - 2008 June 25 :  11:06:53 PM  Show Profile
Pud, let me see if I understand... your on the fence regarding the NARC/SASK deal? Just kidding

I guess the best way to vote is with the wallet. Though another body style, albeit very similar to one already in existence is tempting, and I like to support Canadian prototype models, I think I'm gonna sit this one out. The NARC cars will cost more than the IM ones, I'm no fan of the new Sask scheme, and I have over 200 of the IM cylindricals... how many more could I possibly need!

I really think NARC should have chosen another prototype to release.

FWIW, I find it funny that the Province that gave birth to the NDP has cut a licensing agreement with a for-profit company. For-profit, a four letter word... comrade


Mike LockWood (MLW)

Atlas, Please Release a CN GP40-2L(W) in N! To do one in HO and not N is just mean

My Railroad Photography
http://tinyurl.com/62uk24
And some more here
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davidone

Posted - 2008 June 26 :  12:48:08 AM  Show Profile
$40!!!!! No recent plastic N scale car is worth that much. I just don't see the reason to buy anything from PWRS. The prices are msrp or above. There are just too many other dealers out there that are not trying to rape the modelers. As much as i like that car i will not buy it from PWRS. Intermountain makes a ton of those types of cars and you can get them at reasonable prices from your favorite dealer. Maybe PWRS should take a lesson.

Dave



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ljudice

Posted - 2008 June 26 :  09:23:43 AM  Show Profile
I frankly don't see any price set over at their site - but one thing I would say... Although their previous IMRC cars were pricy, they were always well done - and probably cheaper than going off and decalling my own.

I'd say let's give them a chance - if they have a new model for selling that gets unique cars out, it could be a positive development!

Lou





Edited by - ljudice on 2008 June 26 11:45:53 AM

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Robbman

Posted - 2008 June 26 :  4:02:14 PM  Show Profile  Visit Robbman's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by sschaer

quote:
Originally posted by Ed Kapuscinski

Wait a minute, aren't you a partial owner of PWRS or something? Full disclosure there please, sir.




recheck this link every now and then. you'll find out more about this project. or send dan an email.




For a link you 'just found' and hid behind a mask... that's too funny.

I'm with Ed... full disclosure, don't make it look like you stumbled upon something innocently...


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Steve4

Posted - 2008 June 26 :  5:07:11 PM  Show Profile  Visit Steve4's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by sschaer

i just found this very interesting page...



...yeah right ! (something smells like fish here)


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acsoosub

Posted - 2008 June 26 :  6:07:41 PM  Show Profile  Visit acsoosub's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by lock4244

Chris, either I missed the announcement of N scale slab sides or your talking about TLT's HO car.



Yeah, I meant the HO car... was talking about the HO sylvan ones in the same sentence and didn't specify when I got to the TLT mention...


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TrainRein

Posted - 2008 June 26 :  9:52:08 PM  Show Profile
quote:
Originally posted by Steve4

quote:
Originally posted by sschaer

i just found this very interesting page...



...yeah right ! (something smells like fish here)



Actually the page is very interesting, and I don't like PWRS.

Hopefully I can buy these cars from somebody other than PWRS.



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lock4244

Posted - 2008 June 26 :  11:17:32 PM  Show Profile
TrainRein, I wait for those PWRS IMRC special runs to get blown out at other retailers when they can't move them for $24 a piece. I doubt we'll have the same luck with the NARC cars since NARC is PWRS (and I always thought a narc was an undercover cop) and they'll control the distribution, but I can wait a looooong time

I have never understood how PWRS stays in business charging MSRP, but they do. More power to them.


Mike LockWood (MLW)

Atlas, Please Release a CN GP40-2L(W) in N! To do one in HO and not N is just mean

My Railroad Photography
http://tinyurl.com/62uk24
And some more here
http://www.railpictures.ca/author/lock4244

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