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Dave Vollmer

Posted - 2007 April 16 :  09:37:31 AM  Show Profile  Visit Dave Vollmer's Homepage
Oh, no! Not another PRR thread!!!

Anyway, I took some photos this weekend of my H10sa kitbash (with apologies to both Gregg Mahlkov and Ray Henderson, who blazed the trail for me). It's a Minitrix K4 boiler with a Minitrix B6sb cab on a Bachmann Spectrum chassis with a TCS decoder.

The purists, I know, are not impressed. It's not an exact match of any H-class engine. But, she'll pull the bumper off your car and meets the 3-foot rule with a foot to spare!





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3rdrail

Posted - 2007 April 16 :  09:56:20 AM  Show Profile  Visit 3rdrail's Homepage
Dave, I wrote an article on building this one in the December, 1975, issue of Model Railroader:



It uses an Atlas 0-8-0 mechanism, but I have a Bachmann 2-8-0 to replace that one of these years.



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Dave Vollmer

Posted - 2007 April 16 :  09:59:51 AM  Show Profile  Visit Dave Vollmer's Homepage
I made sure to acknowledge you in my OP... I met you at the Cocoa Beach prototype meet a few years ago. After talking to you I tracked down that Dec 75 article. Good stuff! I'm a fan of all of your kitbashes.


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David Leonard

Posted - 2007 April 16 :  10:07:48 AM  Show Profile
I am something of a purist, and I am impressed! Great work.


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keystonecrossings

Posted - 2007 April 16 :  10:13:27 AM  Show Profile
I'll take three!

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Ed Kapuscinski

Posted - 2007 April 16 :  10:16:14 AM  Show Profile  Visit Ed Kapuscinski's Homepage
Hmmm... I have a bachmann 2-8-0 mech that's been screaming to have something cool done to it.

SPF Gents, how close would the 0-6-0 boiler & cab LOOK to an H6?



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rschaffter

Posted - 2007 April 16 :  10:19:55 AM  Show Profile
Nice work, Dave!

I myself have a non-running Trix 2-10-0 I picked up from the LHS for $20 a while back, an old Trix B6, as well as a stack of H10 and K4 drawings on my desk. Looking at yours, it appears that you shortened the firebox more than Gregg; is that correct?


Gregg,

I never noticed that you put windows in the front of the cab-no easy feat in that Zamak. I remember your article well-it was in the 4th or 5th MR issue that I owned.



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Dave Vollmer

Posted - 2007 April 16 :  10:20:09 AM  Show Profile  Visit Dave Vollmer's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by Ed Kapuscinski

Hmmm... I have a bachmann 2-8-0 mech that's been screaming to have something cool done to it.

SPF Gents, how close would the 0-6-0 boiler & cab LOOK to an H6?



Hmm... You might come up a bit short (i.e., not enough boiler to cover the Bachmann frame).

If you could add some boiler betwen the domes, it could be done.



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Dave Vollmer

Posted - 2007 April 16 :  10:23:35 AM  Show Profile  Visit Dave Vollmer's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by rschaffter

Nice work, Dave!

I myself have a non-running Trix 2-10-0 I picked up from the LHS for $20 a while back, an old Trix B6, as well as a stack of H10 and K4 drawings on my desk. Looking at yours, it appears that you shortened the firebox more than Gregg; is that correct?





I think so. I trimmed about 3/8" off the back of the firebox. I don't remember how much Gregg did. My firebox length was dictated by the length of the frame rather than the prototype...



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Dave Vollmer

Posted - 2007 April 16 :  10:26:06 AM  Show Profile  Visit Dave Vollmer's Homepage
Here's a shot on the layout...






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mmagliaro

Posted - 2007 April 16 :  10:51:45 AM  Show Profile  Visit mmagliaro's Homepage
This is a terrific conversion, and straightforward too!

As for the H6... I had a Trix B6 shell and Spectrum 2-8-0 sitting together to
do that exact project (until the Key engine came along, so now I've moved
on to something else). I have looked at drawings of the H6 and B6 and they
are so close that I would have done it with almost no mods at all. As to whether
the shell will actually physically fit over the Spectrum mechanism, lengthwise,
they would be fine. I don't know if it would fit down over the mechanism,
but that's what Dremel tools are for!

Hans and Marc Starmans have a very similar H6 conversion on their site. It doesn't
use a Spectrum - it's some sort of home-brewed mechanism, but it uses the B6 shell.
http://n-stars.tripod.com/images/h6.jpg


-- Max

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up1950s

Posted - 2007 April 16 :  11:03:53 AM  Show Profile
Looks good to me . Not knowing very much about anything , but seeing 2 guys come up with book ends tells me that the look must be on target .

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3rdrail

Posted - 2007 April 16 :  11:23:35 AM  Show Profile  Visit 3rdrail's Homepage
The H6's had 56" drivers, while the H10's had 63" drivers. What size drivers does the Bachmann have? They look to be 60-63". So, the drivers might appear too large on an H6sb. There was no way the MiniTrix B6sb shell would fit on the Atlas-Rivarossi mechanism, as the drivers are really more suitable for the H6.


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rschaffter

Posted - 2007 April 16 :  11:58:23 AM  Show Profile
Would the B6 shell fit on the MDC 2-8-0 chassis?

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Rod Schaffter
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Dave Vollmer

Posted - 2007 April 16 :  12:05:33 PM  Show Profile  Visit Dave Vollmer's Homepage
quote:
Originally posted by rschaffter

Would the B6 shell fit on the MDC 2-8-0 chassis?



Not sure... but the MDC chassis has steam chests instead of cylinders and no valve gear. Might pose a challenge.



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mmagliaro

Posted - 2007 April 16 :  2:13:42 PM  Show Profile  Visit mmagliaro's Homepage
3rdRail - very curious. Over at prr.railfan.net, there are a bunch of
H6 drawings (H6, H6a, H6sb, etc), and one of them (the last one on the list)
is actually shown as having 62" drivers. The rest are labeled 56".
Were there some very late H6 models with larger drivers? If not then
the Spectrum 2-8-0 appears to be out of the running for an H6. The Spectrum
drivers are about 60" - 61", depending on how you count the flanges!). I've calipered them,
because I'm thinking of using it as the basis for an I1s, and the drivers
are a good size for that (close enough to 62" for me).


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