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MichaelWinicki

USA
1209 Posts

Posted - 11/03/2009 :  19:15:49  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I did a search... Didn't find much.

Anyone have any experience doing these kits?

Dick Wroblewski

USA
140 Posts

Posted - 11/03/2009 :  19:27:04  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I've done Mid-States Bank, the Diner, City Scoop and the Hardware. The stainless steel is more difficult to work with than plastic or wood, but the finished product is exceptionally crisp and clean looking, IMHO. I bought the separate lighting kit for the Diner and it looks pretty neat in a somewhat darkened room.

Dick Wroblewski
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MichaelWinicki

USA
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Posted - 11/03/2009 :  19:41:27  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
quote:
Originally posted by Dick Wroblewski

I've done Mid-States Bank, the Diner, City Scoop and the Hardware. The stainless steel is more difficult to work with than plastic or wood, but the finished product is exceptionally crisp and clean looking, IMHO. I bought the separate lighting kit for the Diner and it looks pretty neat in a somewhat darkened room.

Dick Wroblewski



Thank you Dick... When you say more difficult, can you quantify that even more?
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nkalanaga

USA
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Posted - 11/03/2009 :  22:17:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
My only experience with stainless steel was wire, but it's almost impossible to glue. I tried some "stainless steel" solder, guaranteed to hold, and it just ran off. It was too fragile to twist the ends together, so I finally made my own crimp connectors. The wire was guy wires on catenary poles, so they needed insulators anyway, and K&S 1/32 inch brass tube was about the right size. Loop the wire around the pole, feed both ends through the tube, add a dab of past flux, and slide the tube onto the flux. Crimp it tight with pliers, then fill the tube with regular solder. With the wire crimped in and surrounded with solder it can't pull out.

That won't work on a structure, so unless it has tabs, I can't imagine what one would use to assemble it.

N. Kalanaga
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Dick Wroblewski

USA
140 Posts

Posted - 11/03/2009 :  22:39:17  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
By more difficult, I meant that the removal of "sprues" or whatever they might be called in a metal model required a fresh (and small) file and, at times, almost some muscle. I also needed to be careful when bending the corners, because a sloppy bend was difficult to correct from a visual standpoint. I built these models a few years ago but I don't remember any unusual problems in gluing them. I did use CA and I remember that they had tabs.

Painting them required a minimum of two coats (I brushed, not airbrushed) because the first coat tended to slide off a little bit. I was using Polly S paints.

Dick Wroblewski

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peteski

USA
1648 Posts

Posted - 11/03/2009 :  22:42:30  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Stainless steel structures are more difficult to build than plastic because the material is stiffer and that makes things difficult especially on the Diner kit where walls have to be curved. Gluing is also more difficult since solvent glues do not work. Best glues to use are 5-minute epoxy and CA (super) glue. Most of those structures have tabs to align parts so gluing is not difficult.

As far as the Diner kit is concerned it looks very realistic because just like the 1:1 prototype - it is made from stainless steel.

Peteski
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nkalanaga

USA
3272 Posts

Posted - 11/04/2009 :  01:31:14  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
Gluing with tabs probably would be easier than gluing wires. The only metal structure I've tried was brass, and I soldered it...

N. Kalanaga
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Chris333

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Posted - 11/04/2009 :  03:12:09  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I have a few of their Z scale kit that are the same as the N scale ones. I even have the diner and I just glued it together with ACC. But I have soldered other stuff and it soldered just like brass did.

Just clip the parts off and touch up with a file, pretty much just like a plastic kit.

I would kit the whole sheet with fine sand paper while it's still flat.



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peteski

USA
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Posted - 11/04/2009 :  04:12:05  Show Profile  Reply with Quote
I never had any luck soldering steel unless I used acid flux. Otherwise the solder doesn't properly wet steel.

Peteski
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